German researcher seeks info on Trail airman

John Dunlop McVie of Trail, died in a plane crash over Germany on Sept. 24, 1944

The 23-man crew was flying in a C-47 Dakota KG653 when it crashed in Germany on Sept. 24, 1944.

The 23-man crew was flying in a C-47 Dakota KG653 when it crashed in Germany on Sept. 24, 1944.

Little is known of Aircraftman 1st Class John Dunlop McVie.

He was from Trail, enlisted in July 1943, and was killed in action over Germany on Sept. 24, 1944. Today he lies in the Rheinberg War Cemetery in Germany.

Almost 75 years later, McVie’s name has come up again after a German research group found the crash site of the Dakota KG653 where he and 22 other airmen were killed. Research co-founder Erik Wieman contacted the Trail Times to ask if we would put a call out for descendants of John Dunlop McVie.

Wieman has completed some research, and noted that John Dunlop McVie was the son of James Kerr McGovern and Jeanie (nee Dunlop) McVie of Trail, stepson of Thomas McVie, brother of Peggy, Marion, Vivian, Lean McGovern, and half brother of Thomas and Marlene McVie.

But that’s all he has.

He would like more, particularly contact information from surviving family, because once the research and crash site excavation is complete, the group will contact descendants with its findings and plant a memorial at the site.

Jack McVie is listed on the Trail Legion’s Roll of Honour of Our Glorious Dead, but no John Dunlop McVie.

Here is Wieman’s story in his own words:

Dear Editor:

My name is Erik Wieman from Germany. I am the co-founder of a crash site research group. We have found the crash site of Dakota KG653. Twenty-three airmen died in this crash. One of the killed airmen was from Trail, BC. His name was Aircraftman 1st Class John Dunlop McVie. He enlisted July 14, 1943 at Trail, BC. He was the son of James Kerr McGovern and Jeanie (nee Dunlop) McVie of Trail, stepson of Thomas McVie, brother of Peggy, Marion, Vivian, Lean McGovern, and half brother of Thomas and Marlene McVie. .

As I was researching the Canadian crew of another crash site in the village where I live, I researched in English and Canadian databases, Neuleiningen (not far from where I live), the crash of C-47 Dakota KG653 en route to India, came into my focus. I saw 23 soldiers died there, 20 Canadians, one Australian and two British airmen, and I wanted to know more about exactly where this happened and what lead to the crash, with the final goal to plan a memorial stone at the site after we find it and excavate it. The aircraft crashed on the 24th of September 1944. From England it should have flown down south over the free french countryside to Sardinia, then to India to help build up two new squadrons in the fight against Japan. It lost its way and, due to bad weather and navigational problems flew into Germany in broad daylight, alone, and was shot down.

We are connected to the archaeological services of Speyer. As with all our research and crash site excavations we plan to contact descendants, tell them about our findings (often descendants do not know where exactly the crash occurred, and what happened exactly) , and plant a memorial at the crash site after the excavation is over. An example of our work (final stage, the memorial service) can be seen here (crash site Limburgerhof, Stirling EF129).

After I heard about the crash and the approximate area I asked the local newspaper for a call for eyewitnesses. They are our golden link to the past and they often still know the exact sites. I already researched details about what happened from the internet and the book of the fighter pilot who claimed he had shot down this aircraft, Julius Meimberg. I gave the newspaper the information I had and expected a small call/article, but they did a really big article on this. They were very interested. The readers were also very interested. Fifteen eyewitnesses of the crash called me after the article was published.

I visited them and most of them showed me one specific area/one specific field. Or rather two fields. Debris was strewn over more than one field. The actual crash site was pinpointed too. One witness showed me a piece of the aircraft he had picked up in 1944 at the site as a little boy. The site was described by all very similarly. They also showed me where the piece of a wing (it broke of before the plane crashed, described by the pilot of the German Me109, Julius Meimberg) came down, 500 meters away from the main crash site, behind a house where an eyewitness was born. It almost crashed in his house. Many new details.

One small tractor-trail was free and I walked this trail through the actual crash site. I found pieces of perspex (plastic windows), bakelite, tyre-fragments and small pieces of aluminum, some with the green camouflage paint still attached. All on top of the field. Very promising finds. We expect at least many more small parts underneath the surface. For 2018 we have applied for a permit to search the whole site with metal detecting equipment to find out what’s been left of the crash in the ground. The whole area was strewn with parts and, unfortunately, body parts, at the time. Sixteen graves were dug at the Neuleiningen cemetery. Some airmen were buried in the same grave.

They gave their lives for their country, and we should remember them, that is our goal. This crash site, where so many people died, people walk by without knowing. it should, in our opinion, have a memorial to remember them. This crash site and the fates behind it should not be forgotten.

My Grandfahther fought in Rotterdam (I am from the Netherlands originally, I have a German wife and live in Germany since 1992). Five years of occupation came, and he often saw and heard the allied aircraft pass over occupied Holland to Germany. Mostly bombers and fighter planes. Now I live here where so many aircrew died and I can do something. However small, but our goal is to find these sites, recover what is left and remember the killed aircrew. Also to show the German people that walk by these former crash sites what happened here. To prevent these fateful sites will be forgotten. We want to make them visible again.

Most of the remains of the aircraft and crew were recovered by the Germans in 1944, nothing can be seen at the site anymore. So we have to see what is left underground. Surface finds were very promising. We plan to pinpoint the exact site for a memorial. When the time is right, when the excavation comes to an end, we will plant a memorial. Of course, all the descendants will be invited, like other mayors already did at other crash sites. We might even find personal belongings of the crew which, we hope, we can return to the descendants.

From the response we got from the newspaper article, the German people are very interested too.

We are trying to contact descendants of the English/Australian crew and Canadian passengers, I hope you can help us with this.

It is our goal to reach all 23 families of the killed crew. Maybe you can publish a small article, a call for descendants of John Dunlop McVie.They might see this and contact us. This often helps. This way we have already found many descendants. If we are lucky here also, I will contact you immediately, in case you want to publish a follow up. My email address: erik.wieman@gmail.com or kontakt@ig-heimatforschung.de

Thank you very much and best wishes from Germany

Hoping to hear from you soon

Erik Wieman

www.ig-heimatforschung.de

 

The aircraft crashed in a field in Germany on Sept. 24, 1944. The man pictured is one of the 15 eyewitnesses, he was at the crash site in 1944 as a kid and showed the site to Erik Wieman.

The aircraft crashed in a field in Germany on Sept. 24, 1944. The man pictured is one of the 15 eyewitnesses, he was at the crash site in 1944 as a kid and showed the site to Erik Wieman.

The aircraft crashed in a field in Germany on Sept. 24, 1944. The man pictured is one of the 15 eyewitnesses, he was at the crash site in 1944 as a kid and showed the site to Erik Wieman.

The aircraft crashed in a field in Germany on Sept. 24, 1944. The man pictured is one of the 15 eyewitnesses, he was at the crash site in 1944 as a kid and showed the site to Erik Wieman.